Iran 0 - 0 South Korea (Asian Cup, Quarter-finals)
FT’ [0-0] Match Highlights
FT’ [0-0] Penalty Kicks
Teams |
Pts |
GD | |
| 1 | Sepahan ** | 58 |
+16 |
| 2 | Perspolis * | 56 |
+20 |
| 3 | Saba Battery | 52 |
+5 |
| 4 | Pas Hamedan | 48 |
+8 |
| 5 | Abu Moslem | 47 |
-1 |
| 6 | Bargh Shiraz | 47 |
-3 |
| 7 | Est Ahvaz | 46 |
+12 |
| 8 | Paykan | 46 |
0 |
| 9 | Zob Ahan | 45 |
+5 |
| 10 | Est Tehran | 43 |
+1 |
| 11 | Mes Kerman | 42 |
0 |
| 12 | Fajr Sepasi | 42 |
-2 |
| 13 | Saipa | 42 |
-3 |
| 14 | Rah Ahan | 41 |
+2
|
| 15 | Malavan | 35 |
-9 |
| 16 | Pegah | 35 |
-10 |
| 17 | Sanat Naft | 32 |
-10 |
| 18 | Shirin Faraz | 21 |
-31 |
Iran 0 - 0 South Korea (Asian Cup, Quarter-finals)
FT’ [0-0] Match Highlights
FT’ [0-0] Penalty Kicks
Vaaghean motaassefam ke in akharin baar hast ke mitoonam highlight haaye baziye Iran ro to AFC Cup bebinam :((
Motaassefaane hamoontor ke az ghabl ham pishbini mishod in teame Iran ba in hame bazikone tooop be khaatere hemaaghate morabiye bisho’oore khodesh faghat mitoonest kheili khosh shaans bashe ke jam ro bebare.
In vaghean nahayate darke payeene yek nafar too morabbigari hast ke tooye ye hamchin baaziyee bekhad defayee bazi kone va tamame zarfiyataye team ro be khatere keshoondane bazi be penalty zire soal bebare. be nazare man QN bayad har che zoodtar kiseyee ke bara team melli dookhtaro bebande ba tamame sia-lashgari ke poshte khodesh raah endakhte va dast az sare in teame badbakhte por setare bar dare. **** bar ravanesh!
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Comment by amin — July 22, 2007 @ 3:05 pm
Aghaye Ghalenoei asked a few days ago why nobody thanked him, lets thank him for getting knocked out in the second round against Korea who missed their 4 key-players with one of our best squads ever…
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Comment by ShirFarhad — July 22, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
Teamhaye dige zahmat keshidan va tasmimate dorost gereftan hagheshoon ham ine ke bebaran.Teame ma ba in hame setare ba tasmimgirihaye ghalat be inja resid.Ma age feshar miavordim mitoonestim darvazeye korea ro baz konim.Afsoos ke enane kar oftade daste yek seri afrade bedoone tahsilat va bedoone ashnayi be elme rooz.Man hanooz ham migam tasmimgiri mohemtarin vazifeye yek morabiye ke morabiye ma faghede tavanayiye lazeme.Be omide roozi ke dele ma irania ke salhast az har nazar khoone shad beshe va gole khande rooye labhaye in ghome mazloom beshine.
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Comment by ESTEGHLALIYE TIR — July 22, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
Vaghean heyfam oomad chizi dar morede in yekki nagam ke noore cheshmiye QN bood va albate vasleye najoore team melli ba in hame bazikone ba keyfiyat; har adame nafahmi ham be in rasool Khatibi enghadr baaj nemidaad ke bekhatere zadan penaltiye moft 120 daghighe jaaye bazikoni mesle javad kazemiyan ro begire!! hala ina hast: QN, khatibi, esteghlal, money, … peyda konid portaghal foroosh raa!!
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Comment by amin — July 22, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
I still cann nott belivee that we lost……..
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Comment by Pouria — July 22, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
football bordo bakht dare, bache ha va morabbi zahmat keshidan, fekre jame ba’di bashim va fekre pishrafte footbalemun ke vaghti yek saro gardan az baghiye jelo bashim, sarneveshtemun be shanso eghbal bastegi nadare, fekr konim chekar bayad beshe ke footbalemun pishraft kone, man migam ke age footbale bashgahi ghavi dashte bashim va un ham bedune eghtesade ghavi bashgah ha nemishe, daramade bashgah ha az tarighe forushe haghe pakhshe televisioni, tablighate enhesari, forushe enhesari pirahan va vasayel ba arme bashgah, blit forushi va varzrshgahe ekhtesasi, hale moshkelate malekiyate bashgah haye bozorg, va gheyre,
sazman dehi football va varzesh, federatione democratic, etehadiyeye bashgah ha va bargozari lig tavasote an ha
footbale dabirestani, lige nojavanan va javanan, sakhtane zamin haye footbale tamrini bishtar tavasote shahr dari ha, tarbiyate morabiyan az radeye payeen ta bala va madreseye footbal ba estefade az ostadane taraz avale jahani, shenasayi footballe irani va entekhabe yeki az class haye footballe jahani be onvane olgu va entekhabe morabiyan va bazikonane khareji az an class, ijade lig beyne keshvar haye hamsaye ba modele orupayi,
pishnehad bedin be jaye entehgad khali
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Comment by Ali — July 22, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
laanat khoda be ghale noee
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Comment by hamed — July 22, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
Bah bah sohbat az shaad shodane dele iraniya shod, bezarid natijeye akhlaghi ke khodam behesh residam ro begam: ba hokoomate akhoondi shaad boodane mardom HARAM mibashad, cherake shaad boodan be manaaye vabaste shodan be donya hast ke HARAM hast va faghat masaaele manavi mesle bombe hasteyee … ke dar jahat naboodiye Israel va US hast ke dar vaghe eghdami khoda pasandaanas va dar jahate hemaayat az GOD mibashad, HALAL hast … Bekhatere hamin man kollan omidvaar naboodam be ghahremaaniye Iran va az in ghabil chiza…
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Comment by goraz — July 22, 2007 @ 3:29 pm
aghaye Ali, baradar in harfa kodoome, hamin alanesham bazikonaaye Iran 3-4 pelle balatar az bazikonaaye Korea boodan, in ghesse haa baase 7-8 saale ghabl sadegh bood, alan 20-30 saali hast migim khob ishalla jaame badi… har dafam ye mosht adame moftkhor mirizan team melli ro nabood mikonan…
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Comment by goraz — July 22, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
ghalehnooe madar j****eh esteghlali
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Comment by reza — July 22, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
ZIR KHABE ASIA KIYEH
AMIRE GHALENOIYEH
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Comment by kamyar irani — July 22, 2007 @ 3:37 pm
READ TO KNOW WHY IRAN LOST THIS TOURNAMENT!
@ ali number 7:
i tell you something, people like you are not only the reason we are so backward today but also living proof of serious social problems that we have in our culture.
you are right, soccer is truly about winning and loosing, but i remind you that each side tries to be the winning side. You realize Korea did not came with their true squad to these competitions? I am sorry, but do not let your emotions take over. Iran played bad, not because we dont have the talent, but because we have a coach that counts more on GOD than his PLAYERS.
i just want to say, i do not understand how a player like KHATIBI (whose first international appearance was against portugal in the world cup, where he screwed up iran’s only chance to score) can play games for iran. He has been kicked out of his UAE team because of poor performance, never has done anything good to the team and yet we give him ali daie’s legendary 10, so he could go against KOREA and make us disqualified.
the game became more pathetic when ghalenoi made a substitude of our goalie! i think any fool would try to strengthen the team and bring kazamian, rajabzadeh or shojayi instead of khatibi. i am still puzzled why he put in enayati instead of hashemian. enayati’s expiration date passed long ago at the world cup, when it was Daie that took his place. Ironic isnt? history is repeating itself.
Korea came to go to the penalties, funny thing is that ghalenoi tried to do the same. after all KOREA HAD THEIR EXPERIENCED GOALIE AND WE HAD OUR GOD (gosh saying it making me puke).
only thing i am going to say
kutos to nekunam, mahdavikia, karimi, hashemian, roudbarian, hoseini and kazamian.
game over guys, dont get upset we wont get this cup for another 60 years if the administration doesnt change.
cheers!!
Iran for true iranians!
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Comment by afafafafafafaf — July 22, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
It was all the coache’s fault. Khatibi kept getting into offside positions, he should had been substituted. And he was too tired to take the penalty. The coach took too long with madanchi’s substitution as well. And talebloo did good, but since roudbarian had been playing the whole game he would had done bettr i think.
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Comment by Nima Khodabandeh — July 22, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
Goraz jan khob pas chi kar konim, beshinim be entezar ke rejim avaz she, un vaght hame chi yek shabe doros mishe? ya age yek morabbi khareji biyarim ghahreman mishim? na borde ranj ganj moyassar nemishavad, keshvar haye dige kolli barname rizi va kare payeyi mikonan va ma bishtar be june ham miyoftim, kheyli az in keshvar haye dige ham hamchin rejim haye dorost hesabi nadaran, vali footballeshuno be har vasile pish mibaran. manam omidvaram ke democracy ro dar iran bebinam.
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Comment by Ali — July 22, 2007 @ 4:22 pm
I couldn’t see the game, and I don’t know about QN and Khatibi and … just I had some general suggestion that can be after any game. But I know that we critisized coach after any game but coach is also human being and 2 person have always 2 different ideas about everything specially a complicated thing like football, but do you think my suggestions cannot help or will hurt our football? what’s your suggestion? changing the coach? whom do you like? changing the regime? How and to what?
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Comment by Ali — July 22, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
We played well.We lost to our chance in penalty kicks
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Comment by Farzad — July 22, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
Iraq’s captain scored two goals against Vietnam, Uzbakistan’s captain had an assist and a goal but our captain can’t even score a penalty kick.
our last captain(Ali Daei) could at least score a penalty kick
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Comment by Danny — July 22, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
to afafafafafafaf @ #12:
“You are not only the reason we are so backward today but also living proof of serious social problems that we have in our culture.”
These things exactly fit you yourself, afafafafafafaf. QN never said anytghing about GOD and nor he is a religious person. I guess you think Mayelikohan is still the coach! QN, regardless of his performance on this tournament, is a very knowlegable coach who have seen some of the best coaching classes in the world level in european countries.
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Comment by Ha — July 22, 2007 @ 5:24 pm
Amir Ghalenoei va Rasool Khatibi khar hastan
Amir Ghalenoei and Rasool Khatibi are bitches
Amir Ghalenoei et Rasool Khatibi sont des enculés…
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Comment by Nima az Paris — July 22, 2007 @ 5:33 pm
alaki shero ver nagin baba
chizi ke too highlight bood in bood ke iran kheili bishtar az korea mogheiat dsht. nemigam team kheili toop bood va bedoone moshkel bazi kard, ama az korea sartar boodim va penaltyam faghat shanse hamin.
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Comment by sourena — July 22, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
@HA comment number 18
“These things exactly fit you yourself, afafafafafafaf. QN never said anytghing about GOD and nor he is a religious person.”
ghalenoi says “in name of god” each time he starts to speak. there was a bbc interview with him in which he explained how faitfull he is. why you think he went to mashhad before leaving iran? but then wait, u just dont want to see it or you have and trying to cover it up. its sad because he is fine with it, after all he is coming from a country that its president thinks he has a halo of light around of his head.
“These things exactly fit you yourself”
my dear friend, i dont think u understood anything i said, because your counter arguement is just contridictory. in other words, your statement doesnt even have a proper premesis.
how could i be backwards if i believe in people’s merit and not god’s will?. aha! dont just say stuff that comes to your mouth, but rather think when you talk.
“is a very knowlegable coach who have seen some of the best coaching classes in the world level in european countries.”
can you expand on this comment? name the european coaches that have taught ghalenoi or their teams. can you also describe what you mean with “world level and coach class”. i think you meant, world class and coaching level. correct me if i am wrong.
you can go on and insult me however you like, maybe you think i am some anti-esteghlal person(to tell the truth i dont give rat’s arse about iran’s league) but nothing will change. iran lost because of few stupid ppl that were in charge. its very unfortunate but not a suprise.
cheers.
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Comment by afafafafa — July 22, 2007 @ 6:32 pm
We all know that Temmelli is better than korea, but korea happened to convert their spot kicks thats all. Iran has more talented player than korea, for example Vahid Hashimian, and Ando Teymorian. I just hope that this does not bring down Iran’s potiential in playing well in World football. Let’s go Iran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Comment by ali — July 22, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
Why would one think that Leading a football team is an exception from management crises in Iran. From top to bottom there is no place in our country that management is done right. So we shouldn’t have high expectations even though we have excellent talents. what happened yesterday has been our history for the past few decades and will be our future unless we see fundamental changes in our country. Sorry if I am disappointing anyone here but tell me if its otherwise.
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Comment by Aslan — July 22, 2007 @ 7:13 pm
all around the world except for Iran, ordinary people do their job under the managing of sharp and smart managers. Unfortunately in Iran sharp and smart people must do their job under the managing of the most stuppied and brainless ordinary people. Here is that dumb Qalenoyi who is never ever able to reconize up to date science from his stuppied ideas and ofcourse the other governmental heads who are even much more brainless than Qalenoyi support him.
I hope Iranians refer to their historical memory to remember Mr. Branco’s achievements during his coaching period as well Ali Daei who has been tribblly bad motivated.
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Comment by Nick — July 22, 2007 @ 7:15 pm
We were the unlucky one again. When it comes to the penalty kick it may go either way and that is the fact.
Ghalenoi or Ivankovich, we would have lost this one. My only happiness ids that we have more players every year playing in Europe. Zendebad Iran.
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Comment by frahad — July 22, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
ma mogheyat dashtim. bayad kazemiyan ro miyovord to zamin. QN rid be team. age feshar miyovordim, mizadim korea ro. makhsusan ba tajrobeye bade ma az penalty, ahmaghanetarin kar in bud ke hey sab konim ta berim penalty. ba in ke mitunestim hamle konim va goal bezanim, minute 120 QN goler ro avaz mikone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Comment by Hadi — July 22, 2007 @ 7:25 pm
oonhayee ke manteghian javab bedan:
man kari be coach nadaram.khob nabod.amma kodom bazikonhaye khob?chera migim bazikonhaye ma behtaran?teamhaye digaro nega konim,zahmat mikeshano ba taasob baraye teameshon bazi mikonan
bazikoni ke bad az inhame sal bazi to alman hanoz nemidone chejori penalty mizanan,bazikon nist!!bebakhshid ammeye manam midone penaltio baya gosheye darvaze paeen zad,roye zamin.be teame ali abade katol gol zadan ke honar nist.bazikonhaye bozorg marde bazihaye bozorgan.
faghat be esme bazikona del bastim.bikhod nist yekio az Bayern mindazanbiron.zamin footbal ke khoneye khale nist piade ravi koni.hala ye roozi ye dota goali zade dige bayad tamame oomr to zamin bashe?mage jame jahani oon harekato nakard,bazam dars nagereftim.
hame migan enayati,ghabol daram khob nabod amma to ro koda yeki bege hashemian chikar kard?tymorian?faghat esm.
yadesh bekhair,farshade aghaye goal,darvazebane royaeemon,ahmad reza,…
Sorry….
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Comment by poya — July 22, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
Haalam az har chi rasoole khatibie be ham mikhore,,makhsoosan ke fekr mikone kheili khoshtipe
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Comment by aa — July 22, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
alan ham bavaram nemishe ke iran bakhteh
man khodam esteghlali hastam vali qalenoei ya qale morghi ba karash ke mikoneh team ro be bad dad va raft , vali in ke 1nasl football be baad raft be tokhmesh nist.
chera ando ya nekounam penalty nazadand,
chera roudbarian ke 120 min bazi kardeh jasho be talebloo midand mage penalty bache bazie ke harki mikhad miyad to va penalty mizaneh,
chera in sazman football iran enghadar ki.i hast ke nemikhad ye zareh pol kharj koneh va 1 morabi darajeh 1 biareh ,
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Comment by SS from HOlland — July 22, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
vaghti parchame Iran ke balaye hamin page ham hast az in shekle zaayash dar oomad va hamoon shiro khorshide parsi oomad sare jaash oon vaght mishe goft ke Iran shire..
shire shir…
Best wishes for persians and Persia.
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Comment by sepehr — July 22, 2007 @ 7:58 pm
yé message az fasansé :
In coatché bi shoo’ooré ma aslan némidouné tactic chié : farat migué bathéha khoob bazi konido foch midé.
Yé lat o antar o ghavié qué dovomi nadaré.
Bel a’akharé ta iran nafahmé qué az bathégui bayad footbalé dorost ra yad dad va ta iran yé kam pool nazaré brayé “formations centers” ma hichvart ghalati tooyé jam hayé moham nakhahim kard.
bayad fe’elan javan bian ooroopa ké meslené nekounam o teymoorian yé kari bokonand.
Merci va salamti bé tamaé acheghayé iran o footbal to djahan. (et special dédicasse à tt les iraninens de france)
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Comment by $aïd — July 22, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
ShirFarhad jan damet garm.
I remember in 1996 Asian cup Semifinal (Iran Vs. Saudi Arabia). Adebzadeh came into the game in the 120th minute for Nima Nakisa. He did save 2 PK. but iran still lost the game. If we had an experienced and confident goalie like Abedzadeh, then Ghalenoei should have made such a substitution
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Comment by sadegh — July 22, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
to poya:
be nazare man in aghaye QN ke inghadr tactic tactic mikard na tanhaa tactic ke nadasht hichi, amalkarde baazikonan ham tahte tasire tactice HARDAMBILesh tazif shode bood. to ro khoda kasi too in 4 taa bazi aslan kaare tactici didaz Iran?!! aslan nemishe az baazikonan entezaar dasht too ye systeme hardambil khoob bazi konan. Az hame joke tar ineke QN bad az bazi az khodesh defa karde va gofte bazikkonan dastoorate mano anjam dadan (lol).
dar saani aslan baazi nabayad be penalty mikeshid chon iran ghavitar bood too zamin va bayad feshar miyavord va in mesle rooz rashon bood ke Iran too penalty mibaze mesle hamishe.
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Comment by goraz — July 22, 2007 @ 8:05 pm
General Info. to HA. and afafafaf.
Ghalenoei is a religous person. He went to Mekka last year and has always shown his belief. But not in an extent to force the players.
Ghalenoei has been trained in Bayerleverkuzen when Christopher dam was the head coach ( i think for almost a year)
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Comment by sadegh — July 22, 2007 @ 8:09 pm
We could easily win the game. Korea was not strong at all. they were really scared. If we had the attacking tactic, we could easily win. I don’t know why the hell Khatibi played. Kaabi and kazemian could have huge impact. The 3-5-2 system truely showed how conservitive the coach was. We should have played 4-4-2 or 4-4-3.
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Comment by sadegh — July 22, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
I still can believe it
We could easily win the game. Korea was not strong at all. they were really scared. If we had the attacking tactic, we could easily win. I don’t know why the hell Khatibi played. Kaabi and kazemian could have huge impact. The 3-5-2 system truely showed how conservitive the coach was. We should have played 4-4-2 or 4-4-3.
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Comment by sadegh — July 22, 2007 @ 8:18 pm
laanat be GN… in digge chi bud.. mardekhe aslan namidone football chie.. oo bashe koni khatibi aslan ´darejeye teame melli nadare.. To in 4´ta bazi keh mah kardim, hardafash ba taktike va bazikonaye jadid… va namidonam chera enghadar khar hast,, bazi kon mesle hashemian, khatibi, enayati ke har 4 ta bazi ridan hardafe estefadeh azeshon mikard.. vaghean zolme be bazi koni mesle kazemian, shojai, rajabzadeh …. kiire goloftom to dahane GH.. mardekhey antare nafahm.. vaaay vaay. haghe iran bud keh bebazim ba in 4´ta bazi ke kardim.. tamame bazie iran tubhaiye buland bud.. aslan im morabi morabi niist.. divonast.. riidam to dahanesh ke aslan ghabolesh nadaram,.. va on khatibie **** keh 100 bar to afsayd bud. hitch gohi nakhord in khatibi.. berin gomshin heeeerii.. joone nanam ghasam agar allan in khatibi ya GN mididam ,, MIIGHAYDAMESHON ..
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Comment by fadavi — July 22, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
tasliat arz mikonam be hameye doostan…
If I was sitting on team melli’s bench, I would have done better than Ghalenoei! Has khatibi ever taken a penalty shot in his life before? what the hell was that?!!!! Karimi and Nekounam didnt even get a chance!!!
Where the hell was Kaebi? Kaebi is the only player that can always match the Koreans’ speed and scare the shit out of them in the penalty box….
congradulations Mr.Ghalenoei!!! good job buddy, good job.
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Comment by ehsan — July 22, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
nemikham begam galenoie morabby badyeh valie daliele hazfe ma hemagat va khodkhahie ieshan bod chon khodesh miedonest behtarien taeme halehazere asia ra dar dast dareh valie miekhast ba afkar jadied khodesh az khodesh gahraman besazeh karesh khob bod valei na dar ien magta chon vase taviez va ashena kardan ba taktiek jadied zaman miekhad
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Comment by kamran karimi — July 22, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
everytime I watch the highlights it pisses me off even more!!!!
baba akhe why Taleblou comes in for penalty kicks!!! I’m pretty sure Roudbarian would have done better!!!! He seems like his IQ is below 100! Even “Nepal’s” goalkeeper would of jumped to the other side at least once…
I wish I was on the squaaaaaaaad.Gooood…
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Comment by ehsan — July 22, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
mahdavikia is a shity captian! Saad rahmat beh Ali Daei!
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Comment by Kasra — July 22, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
After experiencing and witnessing failures after failures in the last 28 years from football to everything else, I think its time for everyone to really believe in regime change. A renaissance inside of our country is the only solution.
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Comment by mohsen — July 22, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
Ghalenoei is a ****ing idiot. Rasoul Khatibi should never have even been in the top 5 for the shootout. I don’t care about iran football anymore. It’s all politics. And I’m tired of getting my heart broken every time I see Iran lose in a major tournament. Ghalenoei is to blame for everything.
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Comment by Matine — July 23, 2007 @ 12:33 am
Apparently some of the players refused to shoot PKs. That’s why Khatibi was among the 5.
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Comment by sadegh — July 23, 2007 @ 12:52 am
I think Teymourian deserves all the cheers. He is already an instrumental player in Bolton and despite being a minority in his country, he was the only one who cried after both world cup and asian cup elimination. He truely devotes himself for team melli as he does for his club ( not like other lesioners that prefer their club over team melli )
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Comment by sadegh — July 23, 2007 @ 12:57 am
MORDE SHOORE IN KHATIBIO BEBARAN KE HICH GOHII NEEST ! ****E AMAEYE GHALENOYYEE , HASHEMIAN HAM ZOOD KHODAFEZI KONE TA ZAYE NAKARE KHODESHOO!
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Comment by jasem — July 23, 2007 @ 1:09 am
@ sadegh:
i know that, i totally agree i was quoting ha, realize i put in “.
@ frahad comment 25:
first get ur facts straight, it not Ivankovich, its ivanko brankovic.
shows how much u actually know.
@nick comment 24
awesome post, well done.
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Comment by afafafafa — July 23, 2007 @ 1:10 am
another thing @ sadegh,
we have lot of engineers in iran that claim same sort of qualifications, i highly doubt anything like that. plus even if its true, from when a top 6 bundisliga team is considered as world class? its like being from turkeminstan and taking a course in abo muslim or peykan.
i dont think u should even try to save ghalonoi’s professionality, save your breath bro, that couch had anything but soccer wits.
cheers
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Comment by afafafafa — July 23, 2007 @ 1:15 am
Just to let everyone know, that was Korea’s real team, they on purposely put their younger players out, cause they were pretty good (they wanted them to try as starters) and their other players were getting old (I read this in a news article). I wish we had Daei just in case of a penalty shootout! I HATE KHATIBI, ENAYATI, AND MOST OF ALL QN!!!!! You Iran could win the Asian cup every time, BUT, we don’t have a proper system, we don’t have proper training, we have the players in their wrong positions, and most of all, we don’t have a proper Coach. Also the players don’t have good chemistry like other teams do, every player wants to score a goal on their own. Have you seen teams like Saudi Arabia, their players are worse in comparison to most of ours, BUT they have a proper system and they care about their players, they teach them proper game tactics and what-not, and all the things that I said Iran needs help in, Saudi Arabia doesn’t. The Saudi team has a GREAT coach. Sure, Saudi Arabia is rich, BUT, the players give it all they got, they have good chemistry and they play the game cool. Iran always gets scared on big stages and shits its pants. So, if we could fix those things (like the Saudi Arabia), we will definitely be the best in Asia.
Oh, and obviously Saudi Arabia is going to win this Asian Cup, and we will lose our title as the most successeful team in the Asian Cup. This cup was important and Iran F***ed it up. Sorry!!!
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Comment by Sin — July 23, 2007 @ 1:55 am
The Forwards shouldn’t have been Khatibi (EWWWW!) and Hashemian for this game. It should have been Kazemian and Hashemian!
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Comment by Sin — July 23, 2007 @ 1:58 am
Ba Arze Mazerat Vali—> ****e Naneye Aghaye ghale Noyi.Mamnoon.x
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Comment by Payam — July 23, 2007 @ 2:38 am
Only player in Iran played good were teymourina,rezai,zandi, hashemina, enyati, rodbarian, and half team the rest play like shit and Iran need to play 100 percent otherwise iran will get lost after lost coming for them with very day in their lives. and in the meantime Iran need to bring better quality and not shity player in the team. bye.
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Comment by sourena — July 23, 2007 @ 4:24 am
To comment 48 by afafafaf
I totally agree with that. I just tried to give some info. not to Justify Ghalenoie’s ass.
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Comment by sadegh — July 23, 2007 @ 4:35 am
valla harfi vase goftan nadaram faghat motassefam kasi ke liyaghat nadare hatta dar sathe bashgahi bazi kone va az bazihash 90% mardom midoonan che bazikon gol nazan va amataur i hast ke dar yek bazi melli 17 bar too offside bemoone bad in heyvoon be khodesh ejaze mide penalty vase iran bezane az hame bishtar be nazar e man taghsire ghalenoyi hast ke ba voojood dashtan e bazikonan i mesle kazemian, kabi va mobali miyad az yek heyvoon be esme rasoul khatibi estefad e mikone aghaye ghale noyi omidvaram ke estefa bedi chon ghod bazit va ye dandegit be hich dard e team nakhord to mikhasti be mardom sabet koni mitooni az har bazikon i dar poste na bejash estefad e koni
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Comment by Farzad — July 23, 2007 @ 5:36 am
i agree with most of ppl but we all know khatibi never played well for team melli the only reason he is fixed bc he is friend of G.N i remember the night that mayeli kohan was on 90 min Show and Mayeli Kohan told G.N that why he use khatibi and G.N responded that friendship between him and Khatibi is different….. i dont give a damn shit who plays in forward bc most of them are suck but 10 years old kid knows that kazmeian or kabi would play better than khatibi in forward position… or poor shojayi never got a chance to show what he deserve … Mr. G.N. im really sorry for you because you dont know team melli is about 70 million who love football its not about you **** khatibi’s mom everynigh …. and im sorry for ne****am or karim and rezayi who refuse to kick PK becuse thay should have known that khatibi would **** up!!!and respect for teyoorian who cried , i cried with him but what you can do… its already over and we should say bye to Asian Cup…. i hope i see G.N in court because he played with 70 million people feelings and he should regret wut he has done for team melli because none of the worth shit without winning the Asian Cup…….. and at end i hope this is last time we have coach who doese not respect ppl b/c ****in G.N was selfish like a bitch.
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Comment by farhad — July 23, 2007 @ 5:58 am
Dear friends, don’t blame the loss on players, khatibi has never been a good player and he knows it too, blame it on the idiots that bring him along, who would say no to a chance of wearing the jersey of “Team Melli” if the coaching staff and the soccer organization is stupid enough to bring Enayati and Khatibi on the team and give them playing time then don’t get upset at the players should not be blamed. They both have proven that they can not play at the international level, yet they are used on a regular basis.
However, don’t forget that none of our star players played to their fullest capacity, with the exception of Nekounam and Ando. I believe the Iranian players lack motivation, they lacked it at the world cup and they lacked it at the Asian cup. We need to bring young and enthusiastic players that want to get to higher levels and prove themselves to the world, not someone that is already making 2 or 3 million dollars a years, what it the motivation for him.
The Iranian Soccer organization is corrupt and has been for years; being selected to the national team is all about connections and not about talent.
At the end I have to say that Ali Dayee was missed in this tournament, maybe he can not run as fast as others and of course he is not as fit as he used to be , but his presence and leader ship was sorely missed.
Let’s hope for better days for our beloved “Team Melli”
Peace …
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Comment by Babak — July 23, 2007 @ 8:43 am
Mr. G.N.i hope that i can catch you to stick my finger in your ass ….**** Sucker
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Comment by scazeh — July 23, 2007 @ 9:02 am
vaghean moteasefam.
harcheghadr khastim omidvarane baziharo nagah konim, va be khodemoon beghaboloonim ke iran har bazi pishraft mikone va behtar mishe alaki bood. in teame meli, ba in hame bazikon khoob, ta vaghti ye morabiye amale, masle ghalenoyi dasht bashe be hichja nemirese. az in narahat nistam ke bakhtim, az in narahatam ke aberomoon raft, hame ja migoftan iran shanse avale ghahremaniye, oomad bad az 31 sal ghahreman bashe, behtarin teamo dare, vali aslan engar hichkas barash mohem nabood inchiza. man ke kheily moteasefam ke bayad be ye ede cheshm tang bebazim.
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Comment by Knight — July 23, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
I really dont understand the point of having khatibi take a penalty kick. I mean this is no joke, the guy doesnt know how to handle the ball, and he takes a penalty shot. What were they thinking. What concept did ghalenoyi had to ask khatibi to take the shot. even mahdavikia ruined the shot, but at least he plays well, but khatibi doesnt do anything. If we had kazemiyan playing forward, we had a great chance of winning the game. I dont even understand why we have to have iranian coach when they dont know shit about soccer. Just because he made esteghlal the champions it doesnt mean he can make the team meli champions.
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Comment by Knight — July 23, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
I really dont understand why bunch of fags use this chance to blame it all on politics?? who gives a shit about politics. what we are worried about is our soccer, not the flag. this kid says when they change the flage to shiro khorshid, then we can cosider iran as shir. who cares about the shiro khorshid or the flag at this time. this has nothing to do with our topic of discussion. please if you have nothing to say, then dont make any comment, on one would blame you for it. saying nothing is better than talking shit.
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Comment by Knight — July 23, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
I AM ****IN PISSED OFFFFF THAT IRAN LOST THAT I SLEPT FOR 2 hours and didnt eat anything then i woke up around 12:30pm i had breakfast and i am still pissed up
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Comment by Ali — July 23, 2007 @ 1:32 pm
goore pedare in khatibiye madar ghahve. hamash in nishe kasifesho baz mikard va shire mikeshid to zamin. tokhmesag be khatere hamin zad vasat. toolesage gherti. dardo balaye zandi bokhore to sare (madanchi, khatibi, Enayati, nosrati, va toolesage ghale goozi)
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Comment by Enayati (PinoCio) — July 23, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
tof be ghabre ghale noee
tof be ghabre khatibi
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Comment by hamed — July 23, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
madare ****ye ghalenoyee jaakesho gaayeedam. ey mellat baba yeki nist in khaar****o bendaze biroon ****kesho. akhe olaagh ki be to gofte to morabbi hasti madar****. havaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
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Comment by alijoon — July 23, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
Man ****am to dahane tak take fedrasione footbale Iran keh in bache konni hichi nadoon ro miaran sar-morabi team Iran mikonand. Hala ham keh bakhtim
in ****keshe qhalenoee migeh hameh taqhsirha zire sare khodeshe va har kas har chi mikhad beneviseh, be ebarete digeh bi ****eshe roznameha chi minevisand.
In ****s kesh bache koni to do ta bazi nadideh bood Kazemiyan az khatibi va enayati behtareh.
****AM TO DAHANE FEDRASEEON FOOTBALE IRAN
****AM TO DAHABE QHALENOEE
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Comment by Reza — July 23, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
this drama can go on forever, but we are in big trouble for qualifying for next worldcup if we are going to count on egocentric people like ghalenoi who messed up the best squad iran could have had in years. the use of Enayati, Khatibi was a big waste during this whole tournement.(we got 2 more ali daeas now) lets face it, our forwards didn’t do shit for 4 games. most goals were from free kicks and the only goals scored from the ground were either created or scored by the best player of this tournement that is JAVAD KAZEMIAN who had to sit on the bench that last shaming game. what a waste of talent. we need a new team. a hungry team. except for nekounam and ando and zandi all other stars should leave this team, cuz they are simply not hungry for team melli any more. we need a young talented team that wants to run for 120 mins. people like Samereh, Oladi, shojaii, mobali should be considered as the feature of iranian football and they should get the chance to wear the iran jersey. we need to be patient with our young generation and let them keep messing up until they find themselves. we need to stop counting on karimi who will never live up to the expectations we had from him before. Mahdavikia proved to us that he does not have the leadership potential. we need a new attitude towards football in order to get results that is investing on our young talents.
Kazemian you were the best, jalali you were the best and thank you for hustling like you did, when the chances were given. you guys made us proud. you guys are the true iranians.
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Comment by FIGO — July 23, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
I would have to say I agree with FIGO. when the captain of the team doesnt score the penalty kick, what else do you expect from others. What was the point of having khatibi and Enayati when they cant do anything?? my dear friend, i have to tell you, you shouldnt be worried about teame meli for the world cups, because if it stays like this, which im sure it will, becuase its been the same for lont years, then i dont think we would qualify for the world cups. When Branko was leadint the team, he did a greate job, at least we had respect, we were identified as aisas firs team, we were the leaders and all teams were terefide, what about now?? that guy wasnt iranian, but did his best for the team, but ghalenoei is Iranian, but the way it seems, he doesnt give a shit about this team, he only wants to make a star or hero out of himself by placing players in positions which they cant play well and he wanted to prove the point that he can change the abilities of players, but he made a mistake, a big mistak. he disapointed millions of persians who had hopes for Iran qualifying as the first and the best. But so long to dreams, and hello to nightmares. I hope we get a coach that really cares about the team and all their fans. All The Best
With all this, I still love my Countries soccer team and respect them. What else can we do?
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Comment by Knight — July 23, 2007 @ 7:18 pm
To comment 67.
We need to have a world class coach. our problem is that since 1988 our coaches were those who had their first international experience with team melli ( Ali Parvin, Maylikohan, Ghalenoei, Branko….). Team melli was a place for these people to gain experience not giving experience. The fifa ranking criteria has totally changed since last year, otherwise iran would still have been on the top of Asia. team melli had it all from Ali Karimi’s superior performance in 2004 Asian cup not from Branko. Branko Never changed Ali Daei and his usual squad. Not to mention he was a good coach, but not someone that is suitable to coach team melli with all his stars in a world cup. We need someone like guss hiddink, Philip Trossier, Dick Advocate, Solari, and other coach who have successful international carrier.
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Comment by Sadegh — July 23, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
only these players were good: Hosseini, Mahdavikia (not in the last game), Nekounam, Hashemian( although he didn’t score but he attempt very hard), Zandi.
**** these players and we should kick these mother ****ers out: Madanchi, Khatibi, Enayati.
Ghalenoei: be omide emame zaman, khanoom fateme zahra ghahraman mishim. akhe ****keshe bi namoos to hich gohi nakhordi onvaght omadi az emamha komak mikhay.
khareto sag begad. ****keshe bisavad
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Comment by Enayati (PinoCio) — July 23, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
down with ghalenoei. the mother ****er
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Comment by Enayati (PinoCio) — July 23, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
may enayati **** ghalenoei with his nice face
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Comment by Enayati (PinoCio) — July 23, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
Players like Enayati, Khatibi, Mahdavikia and even Hashemian should follow Rezaie and hang their boots ASAP. We have a lot of young talented players which we need to work on for the future tournaments. I am sick and tired of having to spend my time hearing news about these few so-called foreign-based players who get to play every single game regardless of their performance. Nekounam should be the next TM captain.
Having said this, QN is to blame for playing Khatibi instead of Kazemian or Kaabi or even Shojaie. The match should have never gone to the PKs and his last minute substitution of Talebloo for Roudbarian was truly foolish. I hope QN does the honorable thing and steps down immediately. I would like Daie taking charge of TM for the next few months.
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Comment by Farshid — July 23, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
@ 72:
Sohbat az Ali Daei shod… Kheili bebakhshlid(lol)…fekr nemikonam ali daei mesle bazi az heyvoona ta behesh ye tarof bezanan bepare vasat biyofte be lafto lis. daei kheili bahoosh tar az in sohbatas ke ba ye ghahremani fekr kone alan dige donya ro mitoone fath kone va khodas va dige hishki behtar az oon nist. har moghe yade in miyoftam ke teame feli daste che amaleye bisavadi oftad va chejoori in team ro nabood kard ghalbam tir mikeshe. lanat be khodesh va jadde abadesh.
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Comment by goraz — July 23, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
Fellow persians (i am doing this because there are some arabs here also who are saying bunch of crap about iranian heritage)
we need a european coach along with an iranian one. Like they should ericson to the team meli and put ali daie as his assistant beside him (just an idea). if we bringing any european coaches then they better know our players. For gods sake no more “VICHES” are needed in iran. Thats mean no more brankovic and ghalenovich;). get us some big name that knows how to train our guys. Look at iraq’s coach viera he is not that big but i am sure the name rings a bell for everyone (the dude that led iran against austrilia.).
i agree with all those who said iran needs to start fresh. keep zandi, nekounam and ando rest can all hang up their boots (i love u mahdavikia but this is the best time to retire). we need to wake up and act quick before the next world cup (believe me 3 years its not a long period for creating a good soccer team).
i fear that we going to be saying the same stuff during the next world cup.
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Comment by afafafafa — July 23, 2007 @ 11:44 pm
Goftam Team Mulla Mibazeh Chand rooz pish . Koreh kaylee bad bazi kard vali bord , Bacheh Mullaha ham bad bazi kardand . hagh beh hagh dar resieed. bayyad bishtar beh Mohamad va alleh mohamad doa kard LOL
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Comment by ROOHOLLAH — July 24, 2007 @ 3:09 am
this would probably be the last time Mahdavikia ali karimi and rahman rezai to play in the asia cup or world cup it is very sad to see it finished like this.
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Comment by al — July 24, 2007 @ 3:39 am
****deye ghalenoyeeeeeeeeee khar****e to akhe goh saret mishe.to khodet mogheyee ke bazikon boodi che gohi boodi ke hala ba morabigari gohi shodi.bache ****iye khatibi akhe to goh halite ke shomareye 10 ham bar tan kardi ****de.**** nashosteye enayati to hamooni boodi ke migofti man age jenazamam too zamin bood be mexico goal mizadam. akhe khar ****se **** ridi badbakht.ridam too in fedrasion ke ma darim.****e tak take mardaye ba gheyrate varzeshdoost iran too ****e hameye shoma khar****eha.
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Comment by pezhman — July 24, 2007 @ 4:15 am
77 efate kalam dashte bash,bacheha hame khob bazi kardan,faghat shans ba Kore bood,
BACHEHA MOCHAKERIM,BACHEHA MOCHAKERIM
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Comment by Bahram — July 24, 2007 @ 7:12 am
azizane man javanana ma bayasti hooshyar bashand ke hama chiz bayasti aslami bashad hata varzesh va footbalash.
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Comment by Khomeini (REHHH) — July 24, 2007 @ 7:21 am
79 agha mesle inke in masalaro maskhare gerefti. bacheha bayad eslami bashand chiye?? harf nazani mimiri?? harfi baraye goftan nadari akhe chera chert migi?? ye meghdar mesle adam fek kon, iran bakhte bad oomadi arajif mibafi?? Iran khoob bazi kard, kheily ham khoob, vali ye bazikon too zamin kafiye ke teamo daghoon kone, va khatibi ham too inkar kamelan movafagh bood. az in hame bazikon in amale bayad bazi mikrad. Mahdavikia khoob bood, ba tamame vojood bazi kard, vali penalty ro kharab kard, vali hade aghal zahmatesho keshid, na mesle oon khatibi ke nishesh mesle khar baz mishe. akhe vaghti bad bazi mikoni, kheily roo mikhad ke penalty ham bekhay bezani.
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Comment by Knight — July 24, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
Aziza man. harfa sayasi chara? man az goor ba shoma sohbat mikonam diya. rooha moghadasa man ba shomaya.
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Comment by Khomeini (REHHH) — July 24, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
Hello,Salam bar hameghy
Thank you Mr ShirFarhad for doing such a great job with clips of the games…
We lost the Asian championship…..we can blame whoever we want..but the reality is we always had short term plan for teem mellii not long term one,we have to bring the first class coaches in iran like Capello,erickson,like oscolari..
as long as we are cheep and bring third class coaches we will get just this kinda resulta….just because some players they play in euorop dosent mean they are the beat..Ali Karimi if was man enought he should stay in euorp no playing for some arab club..khatibi should be out of team melli…is time to bring new players new first class coaches…and plan for world cup….
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Comment by Ali — July 24, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
What was in my mined???
I am Please to see the ferver .This is great. here is my take for real, no joke .
How does team melli wants to win the asian cup when none of its starting forwards in 3 games can score a single goal. Ali karimi , vahid hashemian these two are not regular players in their German teams , they get minimal time to play in real competition, just because they play in Germany ,it should`nt be justification to start for Team melli now. They both showed lack of playing ability at a very low level games, and weak opponents. I have watched Korea for 35 years, This was their weakest team in my opinion. Iran played its soccer with no plan , ball control and ball posession was way under par. Its unfortunate that in the mist this cup in Iran they were stoning people , 4 of them , can anyone tell me in the 15 other countries involved in the Asian Competition, any Stoning of their citizens were going on. It reflects the mood of a nation and its prorities. It is a Shame for a footballer and a Fan to watch these games with the imiges of women getting beaten up for their head scarfs being too loose or men being arrested for wearing T shirts,or people being stoned. This was going through my mine as i was watching the games.
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Comment by Roohollah — July 24, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
rezaye olagh,madar ****ye nanaye toe ke be khode ghale noei majano hesab mikone.
dar zemn ghalenoi ba tanbaliye karimi va baghiye chikar kone?
bara chi lejunerha ,hamashon shol boodan.hamashon bita asoban baba.ando ke rafte bolton diuge ****esh nis ,karimi am ke dare mese sag pool migire az ghatar ,hashemian am ke faghat mese ghav rah mire.
to ina faghat nekounam khob bood .
moteasefane ye mosht adame bi ta asob omade.
tanha eshtebahe ghalenoie ,stefade az zandi dar defa va estwfade az khatibiye JAKESH bod.
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Comment by soroosh_abieteh — July 24, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
What do you all think… Don’t you agree that Ali Daei would be the right man as a coach for Team Melli?
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Comment by Adnan — July 24, 2007 @ 5:44 pm
Iran ba morabihaye Irani be jayi nemirese, ma niyaz be yek morabiye first class darim. har morabiyi ke too iran tooye league bartar movafagh misharo ke nemishe goft biya morabiye team meli sho, ghalenoei ro avordan, didim che goli be saremoon zad, ali daei ham behtare saiparo hedayat kone. ma ta vaghti pool nadim va yek morabiye ba esmo nasab nayarim, teamemoon be jayi nemirese. moteasefane hame fekre kare khodeshoonan, va faghat mikhan esme khodeshoono bozorg konan, team meli va in hame adam va havadar aslan barashoon mohem nist.
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Comment by Knight — July 24, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
Hi all,
bacheha ghabl az inke comment bezarin in chizi ke address midamo hatman bebinid:
too site voanews.com/persian dar roundtable mosahebe ba alireza noorizadeh ro bebinid (Tuesday 2nd Mordad, 24th July, from minute 38:25 till min 42)
kheili chizaa roshan mishe…
khaane az paaybast viraan ast.
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Comment by sepehr from Holland — July 24, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
man motassefane khar shodam raftam in link ro didam va vaghte khodamo haroom kardam baase harfe mofte ye iraniane ahmagh mesle hameye karshenasaye dare piti ke too mamlekat hastan footballi va gheyre footballi …
Aslan ghaziye inghadr pichide nist moshkele team melli ye kallam hamoon ahmaghe ghalenoyee hast bikhod az in haghighat fasele nagirim ke in avazi bood ke team ro nabood kard.
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Comment by goraz — July 25, 2007 @ 2:40 am
salam bar shoma azizan,
benazare man iran goolkeepere khoob nadare. ma yek goolkeeper lazem darim ke dar urupa (alman, italia, france, espania ya englis) bazi kone. in ke hamash zud tar miparid, unam hamash rast miparid.yek bar ham ke chap parid, gereft…..???!!!
va benazare man in teame meli ta vaghti ke ruie in team kr nakonand dar iran hich vaght nakhaham cupe mohemi ra bord. iran hamash bazikonhaye besiar khoobi darad ke kheyli basalighe hastand. vali ta baham kar nkonand va mesle Ali Daei ke khodash ra emruze hanuz kheyli khoob midanad bazi konand be hich jaiy nakhahand resid. yek team baiad batcha ha bazi konand.anvaght dar jame jahani be semi final ham khaham resid. Enshaallah. Khshayar/Hamburg/Germany. rasti khub shod ke Mahdavikia raft. Bishtar au 2 Milion Euro dar sal migereft ke chi. Be man yek bar salam nakard sedash mikardam dar tamrin hayash dar Hamburg (Ochsenzoll).
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Comment by Khashayar — July 25, 2007 @ 11:11 am
emrooz irag as south korea 4-3 bord. vaghean jaye taasof dare ke iran ba oon hame ghodrato esm, bakht bad in iraq ke in hame badbakhtano moshkelat daran bordan.
hala haminjoori alaki alaki iraq gharemanam mishe.
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Comment by Knight — July 25, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
man hamoontor ke goftam iran hichchi kam nadasht bara bordane korea va faghat ye morabbiye ablah hovviyyate footbaalle maaro zire soal bord
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Comment by goraz — July 25, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
chera hame too rooznameha ye harfo mizanan, bad shansi , bad shansi, bad eghbali, bad bakhti, khak too sare hamatoon ke ye mosht harf too dahanetoon gozashtan, bakhtane ma be korea hich bad shansi nabood, bi kefayati bishtar be del mishine
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Comment by FIGO — July 25, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
Arabestan as japan bord. Doostan ki fekresho mikard ke final baziha beyne Iraq va Saudi Arabia bargozar beshe?? to teame arabe ashghal. vaghean adam az in hersesh migire, age iran hamintori mibakht enghadr sakht nabood, vali hala ke 2ta teame ashghal finalist shodan kheily ghaboole shekast baramoon sangine. heyf, vaghean heyf.
Ba dashtane bishtarin ghodrat bakhtim.
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Comment by Knight — July 25, 2007 @ 4:49 pm
Why don’t all you wake up and learn that your team is mediocre at best….this is not a good team…it is a so-so team..it never has been a good team…a so-so team will not be and doesn’t deserve to be champions. It takes more than having players playing in Europe. Iran is not a goot team…they can be , but as of right now, they are not a good team…Japan is, Iraq is, SA is…Iran is not. Wake up, realize…just because they won it 30 years ago doesn’t mean they still desrve or can handle it.
Thank you!
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Comment by Akbar — July 25, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
bazia che esrari daran began faghat morabi moshkel dasht.hame didan in team team nabod.hame daran migan bazikon nadashtim.
karimi bazikon nist.mahdavikia,hashemian,rezaie….ina bazikon nistand.morabi nadashtim,ok.zamane world cup chi?bazam gand zadand.chand sale daran gand mizanan. hamashono bayad andakht biron.ba in bazikona cappelloham nemitone kari bekone.
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Comment by nima — July 25, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
I wish our players had the determination that the Iraqi players has. Hopefully the poor Iraqi win to alleviate their people’s suffering, Not the Rich Saudi camel riders.
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Comment by sadegh — July 25, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
To comment 94
To my dear friend Akbar. Iran is a good team, and they do deserve to win. If there is no structure in the team, and if the coach cant lead the team, it doesnt mean Iran doesnt have good players. If the government would had spent some money on this team, and hired a first class coach that can structure the team correctly and use players in theri correct positions, then we had a great chance to win.
Nima, this is for you also, During the world cups iran had Branko, but who was he?? it was his first time coaching a national team, who was a befor that?? he wasnt much more than a helper to our former coach. This is only because we are cheap!!! we dont want to have good coaches who meet the world standards as a coach. A team, doesnt matter how many good players it has, cant win unless there is someone there to give correct directions.
Yes, its all to blamed on the coach, because the team was to good for him, and he didnt know how to handle the team. We do have players, we have good players. But someone like Khatibi can mess up the entire team and cause greate defeat. this is all the consequence of not paying and getting a first class coach!!!!
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Comment by Knight — July 25, 2007 @ 8:20 pm
Mr. Knight,
There were multiple “if”s in your paragraph, balming everything but the Sun. Even if we hold that to be the truth, what is the end result?
IRAN is not a good team. I know it hurts and is hard to accept and come to acceptance witth, but it is true.
Iran is not a good team. It is not bad either, but the way everyone gets appalled because it didn’t win the entire tournament with teams like Japan and Iraq playing, is a bit on high-expectation.
You think they will let us have it because we are that mighty “Iran” or that we had Cyrus the Great, or because we have fashionable players? No. They give us what we deserve as a so-so team…an early boot out!
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Comment by Akbar — July 25, 2007 @ 8:26 pm
@Akbar comment 98:
u arent even persian mate, the moment u put iraq beside a powerful team like japan i lost respect for all your comments. i have seen iran’s second team own iraqis on western asian games.
this is what you wrote:
“You think they will let us have it because we are that mighty “Iran” or that we had Cyrus the Great, or because we have fashionable players? ”
from there i know you are not persian.
go get paid by your arab masters.
they use “us” or “we”.
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Comment by aaaaaffffffffffffff — July 25, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
Oh, I very much am Perisan. However, I refuse to subscribe to the old mentality that you are suffering from. That is, never to critisize or tell the truth about a failure anywhere national pride is involved. So, your saying is, either be quiet and blame the Gods and Evils, or, if you wanna tell the “real” truth, then u must be an enemy, like an arab.
Again, with all due respect, we do not have a high-level soccer team, and so, there should not be any expectations. Iran’s “second team” doing whatever doesn’t matter. What matters is, Iran’s “first team” is home eating ghorme sabzi, while Iraq is now going for championship. How do u explain that? Luck? Field? Rain? Coach? Government? Serve yourself bud.
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Comment by Akbar — July 26, 2007 @ 1:36 am
Akbar, my friend
To consider Iraq as a great team by you, proves all my points. I dont need to argue with you because I know if they want to, they can win and I see you or my self or anyone else in the position to consider Iran as a weak team, If this is what you believe and you are persian, I must say I feel sorry for you, becuase you have to faith in your team, and you consider Iraqies as good and qualified soccer players. This is very pathetic of you. We dont need to qualify because we had the great Syrus or Fashonable players. These are childish comments. We can win becuase we are persians and our national team is not weak. they are strong to the max, but they require greate leadership which we dont have. So please keep the comments to your self, and if you are no satisfied by Irans plays, dont watch them, or dont come visit the site and comment on them being week and consider IRAQ as a good team. dont mension this anywhere else, because they will laugh at you, not becuase you said Iraquies are good, becuase you dont believe in your own country and team.
All the best to you Akbar.
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Comment by Knight — July 26, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
Akbar, my friend
To consider Iraq as a great team by you, proves all my points. I dont need to argue with you because I know if they want to, they can win and I dont see you or my self or anyone else in the position to consider Iran as a weak team, If this is what you believe and you are persian, I must say I feel sorry for you, becuase you have no faith in your team, and you consider Iraqies as good and qualified soccer players. This is very pathetic of you. We dont need to qualify because we had the great Syrus or Fashonable players. These are childish comments. We can win becuase we are persians and our national team is not weak. they are strong to the max, but they require greate leadership which we dont have. So please keep the comments to your self, and if you are no satisfied by Irans plays, dont watch them, or dont come visit the site and comment on them being week and consider IRAQ as a good team. dont mension this anywhere else, because they will laugh at you, not becuase you said Iraquies are good, becuase you dont believe in your own country and team.
All the best to you Akbar.
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Comment by Knight — July 26, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
Mr. Knight,
I had considered you to be a man of reason and thought, by reading the first comment you has sent to me. I see you are into trying to belittle anyone with an opinion. I still think it is just your emotions talking and you are in fact a man of reason. How about considering me a Persian who has watched, ached, cried and done many unthinkables for the past 28 years watching every move these players make and feel his heartbeat skip woth each triumph thay have, and bleed with each loss. 28 years….there is a limit…eachtime, it is like it is my first time following them, with hope, and full of support…but there is a limit…I have seen GENERATION f players, not just these in the recent team…I don’t call Iraq a GREAT team…but they are in the finals, and we are not…they are being bombed each day, we are not…their best export is a player in Jordan, we have them all over Eroupe…as a Persian I ask you, should you not question this? Should you still relate this to the love for country? Asking me to stop making comments or not watch Iran’s games again, is in fact more childish and a bit on a closed mind set, of which i am sure you are not either.
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Comment by Akbar — July 26, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
Mr. Knight,
your comment “I know if they want to, they can win ” means what? They didn’t want to win? Why is that?
And what is the logic in this commnet “We can win becuase we are persians”??
That is the point I had made with the Cyrus comment. What is the relevance?
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Comment by Akbar — July 26, 2007 @ 2:10 pm
Aghaye Knight
nemidonam chand vaghte footbale irano donbal mikoni.Man as sale 1986.vaghti behtarin teame asia ro dashtim.morabbi oon zaman hameye teamo ekhraj kard.ba yekseri bazikoneke avalin baziye mellishonbod sale 1988 sevomme asia shodim.sale 90 ba ezafe shodane chand bazikon ghahramane asia.lotfan morabiaro be khater biar.va inke cheghadr kharj mikardim.amma behtarin morabi teame melli ma mayeli kohan bod.footballi ke dar zamane oon bazi mikardim man toye in 20-21 sal nadidam.hanozam oon natayejo bavaram nemishe.oon ham chand bazikone por eddea ro ekhraj kard.hammon team raft jame jahani.Dobare lotfan morasbia ro be khater biar.dehdari,parvin,mayelikohan…hichkodom cappello nabodan,age capello bod nemitonest inkaro anjam bede.faghat mayeli kohan mitonest.zamane mayeli azizi dir omad.nazasht tamrin kone.goft bayad nazm dashte bashi .ghabol konim bazikonhaye ma culture balaye nadaran.faghat injor morabia mitonan n teamo moafagh konan.ajibe,baziamigan morabi,mage sale navad morabi ki bod?Parvin,96 mayeli?oonzaman bazikona zahmat keshidan morabi hich bod,hala morabi moghasere bazikona khoban!!!lotfan manteghi bashin.
Thanks
omidvaram
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Comment by nima — July 26, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
Mr Akbar:
What I mean is we have good players, talented and full of skills, as you said we have them all over the world, I have watched them play for long. Yes we dont get bombed every day or thank god there is no war in our country, but doesnt matter how many good players you have and how wealthy you are, you wont acheive your goals unless there is some one to lead you to a fixed direction. All im trying to say is, Iran is not a bad team, it doesnt have a good coach thats certified as a first class coach.
And to let you know, doesnt matter how bad they play and how mad I get, I still dont give up on them and consider them as a bad team, its not my emotions, its only the truth. I said we can win becuase we are persians, ofcourse, Iran has always been number one in Asia, so what does that mean to you? Its only in the recent years or even month better say that Iran is in the second row. So we can still do it and I beleive in them.
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Comment by Knight — July 26, 2007 @ 6:10 pm
Hello My fellow Persians.
It’s a tough time for all of us to see our team melli falling apart like this….we lost ..so whats next… we blame whoever we want or complain as much as we want..
These are the solutions:
1: We need a first Class manager for iranian Footbal Club someone who knows about football and also has a great managerial skills…
2:We have to build more school of football all around Iran,since Iran is the Ocean of talentes.
3:We have to bring first world class couches who can help Team melli and helping us to get closer to the top teams in the world.
4:Once for ever judt we should invite the player who is in great shape and form not just because someone who used to play in Germanyand he didn;t fight for his space in German club and he decided to be a looser and just for more money to play in An arab club..
5: invite young players and build a team for world cup.
6: Creat a mentality of team team work not just depending of one or tow players..
GOOD LUCK
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Comment by Hamid — July 26, 2007 @ 6:14 pm
Mr Knight and Akbar.
I agree and disagree with both of you.
I agree with you Knight that we have very good players. and also agree that we could have a better coach. I have been following team melli since 1988. i belive you refer to iran being the best team according to fifa ranking. Well, my friend that was nothing near to reality. According to that ranking Japan and Egypt and some other teams had better ranking than Germany, and other Europian teams. We barely qualified to 1998 world cup and only because of the determination that the players had not to an underachiever coach like viera how took over the team for less than a month. we qualified to wc 2006 while we only had to beat Bahrain and North Korea. Do you consider that a triumph. the best place we have ever achieved after revolution in the asian cup is the third place. Do you consider that as being number one team ?. our players lacked determination. Something that led the less experience iraqi all the way to the final. I have seen how Hashemian celebrates when he scores for Hannover and how he does for team melli. My friends I agree Team melli really has talented players and we should definately get a world class coach. But we should fundamentally reconstruct our football. We need to privatize the clubs to prevent the players from going to UAE league. We need to bring attention to our U-17 national team. We need to have short term and long term plans. We need to invite players who are thirsty for glory not those who have no incentives.
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Comment by Sadegh — July 26, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
Specially to NIMA:
WOW….I am not that old, but I have been following them longest than all of you guys apparantely. (since 1979!)
I do remeber them getting fired at the end of 1986 Asian games. Those were the days…I was so afraid when i saw the new team the first time against the then “mighty Kuwait” and we saw how a “team” that is not so concerened with their pockets or the lenght of his hair, or the chicks he dates, showed Kuwait who the boss is. Remember?
The scissors kick from Bijan Taheri and the header from Karim Bavi. THAT WAS IRAN!!
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Comment by Akbar — July 26, 2007 @ 7:24 pm
To Nima:
nima jan, ma dige too salaye 1979 nistim, too asre emrooz, ghabool koind ke ma morabiye khoobe irani nadarim
age darim mishe baraye man mesal bezanid?? masalan Daei??!! Age in morabiye nazanine ma ye tavize jozyi to team karde bood va hadeaghal be jaye khatibi az kazemiyan estefade mikard, motmaen bash alan hazf nashode boodim. Hamoon ye bazi kon ke forward team ma bood hich kar nakard, chera?? chon bazikon nabood va ghalenoyi ino nafahmid ke tavizesh kone. Ghabool daram bazikona bayad bishtar say mikardan, vali kheilish taghsire morabiye. Manam footballo kam vaghti nist donbal mikonam, va alanam midoonam ke teame 2vome asia hastim, no matter what. mohem nist fifa doroste ya ghala, mohem makane mast va bazam mitoonim aval shim, age yekam decipline dashte bashim va ye morabiye dorost
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Comment by Knight — July 26, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
this fool akbar thinks iraqi team is better than iran and gets offended when u call him an arab worshipper.
you just proved my point with your wrecked logical reasoning. if iran’s second team beats iraq then iran’s first team must do so. yes yes, it is soccer and anything can happen(like arabs bribing the refrees) but logically speaking iran’s is a much more experienced team. its funny how people like you make fun of others that blame QN’s religious views at times like this. I am 100% positive that before each game you sit in front of your TV and pray to your god so iran can win. so dont you get offended when people say QN counts more on god then his players, because it is the truth, or at least its what he says:)
the more you post here, the more you contridict your views, why do you spend so much time to mock iranian soccer team if you truly believe they arent good? i tell you something, in iran we have never had a talent problem, its always the poor administration that screws us all over. you are coming and saying its the talent that has a problem, meaning its too obvious to see whose’s side you are on.
i dont care if you have followed iran’s soccer for last millenium (though you can brag to mayelikohen for this) but please save the bs and make us all a favour.
cheers
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Comment by aaaaaffffffffffffff — July 26, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Mr. AF
Funny…everyone else has posted civilized replies, but you…I have read your posts in other sections too..full of profanity and rage.,..get some help dude.
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Comment by Akbar — July 26, 2007 @ 11:15 pm
agha joone man in rooza mosahebehaye team melli ro khoondid, in toole sage ghalegohi ba mosahebehaash dare asaabe mano daghoon mikone bisharaf, mordeshour bisho’ooresho bebaran
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Comment by goraz — July 27, 2007 @ 12:35 am
رسول وادار شد پنالتى بزند!
حالا که تيمملى به ايران بازگشته مىتوان اظهارنظرهاى جالبى از اعضاى اين تيم شنيد. ديروز يکى از ملىپوشان قسم مىخورد رسول خطيبى تمايلى به زدن پنالتى نداشت و قلعهنوعى نام او را به عنوان پنالتىزن رد کرد و باعث حذف تيمملى شد. رسول در تمرينات هم تعداد زيادى از پنالتىهايش را خراب کرده بود و خودش نيز از نظر روحى شرايط مساعدى براى پنالتى زدن نداشت!
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Comment by goraz — July 27, 2007 @ 12:37 am
تيمملى بازگشت، اما امير قلعهنوعى آنقدر اعتماد به نفس دارد که در پاسخ به خبرنگاران بگويد هنوز براى استعفا و جدايى تصميمى نگرفته است.
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Comment by goraz — July 27, 2007 @ 12:40 am
در مورد بازى با کره حرف بزنيد.
از هر نظر نسبت به کره برتر بوديم، کره 120 دقيقه اسير ما بود. همه جوره به آنها فشار آورديم. از عمق و از جناحين روى دفاع کره توپ ريختيم اما موقعيتهايمان تبديل به گل
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!asssss hole!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Comment by goraz — July 27, 2007 @ 12:42 am
In aghaye ghalenoyi age behesh vazifeye toop jam koniram bedan kheilye. In agha bayad bere kashkesho besabe. Bartar boodim ke nashod harf, mohem ine ke bakhtim. badesham oon khatibi bazi balad bood ke esme amalasham be zoor baraye penalty rad karde?? andazeye goosfandam nemifahme
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Comment by Knight — July 27, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
Fellas,
Let’s face it….we are facing a “sissyfication” of men in Iran…Guys, men, are not real men anymore…i am sure there are exceptions, but majority are too girlish…no gheirat left, no manliness left…nothing…look in the streets…heck…look at team melli players…u guys wanna tell me, with these “boys” and “men” if Iraq were to invade again, they could defebd themselves? I say it would take 1980’s Iraq a week to make it to Tehran…those were men…Iran’s men of the 80’s…these are…..who knows…
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Comment by Akbar — July 27, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
**** ALL ARABS. We hate arabs
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Comment by Khomeini (REHHH) — July 27, 2007 @ 11:22 pm
@akbar
the moment i read your comment about civilization i chuckled so hard. dude man, atleast i have a life, unlike you who goes on iranian forums and pretend to act as an iranian.
“we are facing a “sissyfication” of men in Iran…Guys, men, are not real men anymore…”
realy? you think so? who you want to play? jahan pahlavan takhti>? that whole line shows your limited understanding of soccer. soccer is not about “gheyrat” or “god”.
” I say it would take 1980’s Iraq a week to make it to Tehran…those were men”
arab arab:) i pity you, and my friend there on comment 119 gave you the best answer. so you saying those iraqis that invaded iran in 1980s were more men than then 13 year old iranian kids who walked on mines? dude give me your IP, i know lot of people would be interested to have a “civilized” chat with you. after all you come from deserts of arabia and eat corocodile with “bebsi”.
” guys wanna tell me, with these “boys” and “men” if Iraq were to invade again, they could defebd themselves”
no need for these “boys” to defend, in next decade there wont be no iraq thanx to your american friends.
i am done with you mate, but next time that you come to poison iranian minds at least choose a proper persian name.
go _____ yourself.
you can feel in the blanks with your limited vocabulary.
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Comment by aaaaaffffffffffffff — July 28, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
Kiss myself?
AHHHHHHH,,,,u must have misread my comments brother…or I may have mistyped…when i say “those were real men”, i meant the Persian men back then defending and pushing back the invading Iraqs…I wasn’t commennding the Iraqi army. However, your temeprous personality fills you with rage and blanks your eyes before you could read correctly and judge accordingly.
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Comment by Akbar — July 28, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
Guys please stop it.
Why can’t we have a civilized conversation free of any belittleing an racism. We are here to give our thoughts and suggestions about our team melli’s performance, not to backfire at eachother.
lookslike all of you have been passionately following team melli for a long time. Soccer is the only thing that can bring us all together from all over the world. So please don’t ruin it.
Please don’t insult any nation. We are the successors of Cyrus the great. A man who is well known for his tolerance.
Be omide pirouzi team melli va melate Iran.
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Comment by Sadegh — July 29, 2007 @ 6:58 am
Akbar Jon.
I believe if Iraq invade us today or 100 years from now, we will be courageous enough to defend our country the way we did in 80’s ( some thing we have proved in thousands of years). I think what you meant was that money, playing in europe, fame and etc. are factors that have made some of team melli’s players not have enough incentive to play. We had decent players that are full of dedication for their team. Our younger and less experienced players defeated this Iraq team weeks before the asian game using the same factor that the iraq’ team has used so far to reach the semifinal.
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Comment by Sadegh — July 29, 2007 @ 7:08 am
We must insult these bastard arabs. because all the misery we have are from these ****ing arabs. look all the countries beside us are arabs. and we are the only country that is persian so they try to ruine our civilization. we have the great civilization. more than 2500 years ago we have a government which said (KERDAR NIK PENDAR NIK GOFTAR NIK) and at that time arabs were eating lizard or sth. and today we see that they are trying to change the name of PERSIAN GULF in to ****ING ARABIAN GULF. and they are trying to make us arab. But we are the Cyrus the Great’s Son
Be wise
I am honor of being a PERSIAN.
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Comment by Khomeini (REHHH) — July 30, 2007 @ 8:18 am
Guys, I would say its time to take it easy. Im not sure if we all like arabs, but just because they have qualified and played better than us, it doesnt mean its time to insult them and bring up this whole thing about racism. Lets all be friends and worry about our teame melli. those who played well got their rewards and those who were bad, like us, didnt get any. So instead of talking about Arabs, or fighting against each other, with making comments about the 80s and war, lets comment about today. Those days are long gone, and we have many days to go ahead of us. This is not a good place to bring up these issues. What we are doing is, we are going from soccer to politics, which they are not related at this point. So get reall and think about our teame melli.
Although I have been disappointed a lot by Irans games, but still, I wish them all the be